Gundam 00 S2 — Episode 02
It’s Transformers 2!
Well, that was a huge disappointment. Episode two didn’t do anything interesting at all. Looks like the spaceshipwreck is still quite far off. The character feuds are building up though, so it’s all a matter of time. Also, Gundam 00 is such an anticlimax.
Summary
It all began over two hundred years ago. A brilliant bald guy by the name of Aeolia Schenberg was always getting picked on by schoolyard bullies for having a girly name. He vowed to take revenge on the world of Social Darwinism by building giant robots called Gundams that would fly around the world to blow bullies up and defend the weak and the nerdy. And so he did, using super powerful magical artefacts called “GN drives” which were forged in the centre of an intrasolar gas giant by Celestial Beings, a mysterious brotherhood of galactic space wizards founded by Schenberg.
Due to the magical properties of GN particles, (which are infinitely versatile and can be used for propulsion, offence, defence, and heating pizzas) the GN-drive-equipped Gundams achieved in no time total superiority over lesser humanoid mecha designs bounded by the laughable laws of physics and reality.
However, Aeolia was not content with mere perfection. What if he had to heat two pizzas up…at the same time? Solving this immensely difficult problem proved to be the greatest challenge he ever faced in his life, except for the time he got his ass kicked by an entire football team of jocks for being a pansy face. But his brilliance pulled through and eureka! The long list of equations and theorems all pointed to one single conclusion: he must build a Gundam with two GN drives. Not one, but two. The idea was untested, dangerous, and probably heretic, but he went ahead with it because he wanted to play god.
And thus, Gundam 00 was born.
Seriously though, this whole thing is rather lame. Double the GN drives = more powerful? Who would’ve thought?
Oh yeah. Here’s the real summary, done in captions because there’s so little to actually summarize.
Gundam 00 refuses to work because it is an attention whore
Lockon is back in a weird way; Grace’s panties are sort of wet
Manekin and Peries meet at A-LOLS (that’s how I’m spelling it from now on!) headquarters
Graham the Creepy Voyeur is stalking Ms. Kyonyuu and Ms. Petanko
Saji is locked up in the crazies room
Setsuna chases Billy away and forces himself onto Sumeragi
Marina gets shot by A-LOLS and dies in the second episode. Oh snap!
Liumei is evil and Nena is her slave
Gundam 00 refuses to work without Setsuna’s magic touch
A-LOLS shoots! G00 saves!
I hope Sunrise doesn’t sue me for copyright infringement because I basically reproduced the entire episode above. All of it.
Thoughts
I think G00 (the Gundam) is stupid, and Ribbons is an idiot. What? Two GN drives!? That’s unpossible! Damn you Aeolia Schenberg! *shakes fist*
The directions of the beams don’t even make sense!
But that aside, this is an okay episode with no real surprises. I can honestly say that not one bit of it is unexpected except for the part where Marina gets shot and dies! Oh man, Sunrise is so brilliant. Who would’ve thought that the main female lead would die in the second episode? As much as I love Marina for her fan serviceability, that’s seriously the greatest single moment in Gundam history. Wait, what do you mean she’s not dead? Damn A-LOLS pansies.
I sincerely hope that Saji is not going to be wasting airtime with his emo angsting for the next ten episodes or something. He needs to get off his butt, find a Gundam, and fight Louise to the death ASAP for my amusement.
And is it just me or does Neil’s twin brother feel like a huge cop-out. It’s like Sunrise really wanted to kill a main character for good just to prove that they have the balls to do it, but wimped out at the last minute and threw in this identical twin to appease the angry mob of yaoi fangirls.
It’s magic
Also, “twin drive” sounds a lot like “twin tail”, and Gundam 00′s capricious behaviour is right on the mark: it is a tsundere mecha whose heart can only be reached by Setsuna’s burning hot passion. How homoerotic.
Screencaps
Twin drills
Come on beach episode…
“There is a mole in our organization”
“………”
I keep forgetting… Who is he again?
“Hey, I’m going to bait the fans by pretending to reveal your real given name”
“Attack to Spain! Attack to Spain! Spain, please come in!”
Setsuna is such a playboy
“Guys, we must go through the entire history of our organization every time we hold a meeting in case anyone is listening and needs clarification”
Androgynous cleavage
Haro’s diet consists primarily of portable computers
“Once again, I have cut an unworthy object”
Everyone’s a fan of May’n all of a sudden. It’s not cool and indie any more.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:47 am
I wonder how long these new Gundams will be Gods.
1st season, it was like, until ep 15
October 13th, 2008 at 1:08 am
Big Gundam go boom boom!
Well, that was a buzz but i give it two perhaps three episodes before they come up with a way to tweek the Ahead MS or perhaps build one that puts out more power than a twindrive system… hmm, how do we get more power *lightbulb above head* build a bigger drive!!
October 13th, 2008 at 1:09 am
Well, i think that guy who you miss out is the one piloting the mobile armor that combine with Exia
Anyway, i’m waiting for the sub to enjoy my HD anime~
CMON “subber” !
October 13th, 2008 at 1:16 am
You mean Lasse?
Anyway, why didn’t the twindrive system work at first? I gather there was something to do with the Trans-Am mod but if its using Trans-Am then doesn’t it have a time limit given that the Trans system releases ALL of the stored GN particles at once??
October 13th, 2008 at 1:16 am
G00 is American Football Gundam seriously. Shoulderpads!
October 13th, 2008 at 1:35 am
Darkmirage, I think you missed the opening. It says Gundam 00 was testing 3 MONTHS AGO before Setsuna came back to CB.
The twin drive at that time is: Nadleeh + 0 Gundam
After Setsuna came back…
It is Exia + 0 Gundam.
I am surprised that many people did not figure that out.
ONLY EXIA’s drive can match up to 0 Gundam’s.
Hinting: Setsuna and Ribborn’s skills are match.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:37 am
I don’t understand why you thought that was relevant to my post. I hope people are not going to complain about how Marina didn’t actually get shot next.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:45 am
Just because a series doesn’t develop the way you think it should doesn’t mean it’s stupid and a trainwreck.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:49 am
well about the last line… I still like May’n, no matter what you might say in the last line…
Your words will not change my beliefs…
Yup! thats what i wanted to say… About the second episode… hmm i comment after i watched it… who noes it might be fun..
October 13th, 2008 at 1:49 am
On a side note and because i’m interested to know, what do people think of the new opening and ending themes?
October 13th, 2008 at 1:57 am
Jayers: This is true. However, at the same time there just some things that make the story less appealing that in my opinion shouldn’t be done. For example bringing dead characters back to life (hi Gundam SEED Destiny).
I agree fully with the Lockon thing. Yes, we saw Lockon’s twin in season 1 but I still agree with DM’s sentiment that it was more or less a cop out.
I also like the series more when the sides are even, rather than the whole “GUNDAMS > WORRRRRLLLDDDD.” In Z Gundam, 0080, and 0083, for example, you could die, lose an arm, or have your brain deep fried and served with a side of tartar sauce even if you were a Gundam pilot.
However since Gundam Wing there seems to be this prevailing theme of “Gundams need to be way overpowered and grunt Mobile Suits need to be useless flies.”
I think Gundam 00 still has a lot of potential, but they will at least need to develop characters far more in depth than they did in season 1. In season 1, I felt like most cast members were given only minimal character development, and as a result my sympathy for the cast and any character deaths was not very high.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:26 am
“Everyone’s a fan of May’n all of a sudden. It’s not cool and indie any more.”
May’n fandom just got violtaed. I am truly disturbed.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:31 am
@Benson- I think the director said he’s going start working harder on the series in one of the magazine interviews. It’s only the second episode. They’re giving hints of further development for background characters like Soma, Feldt, and maybe Saji. Why can’t people just wait to see the whole thing as it is rather than judge it based on what happens in other series? If you go in assuming that this is similar to that and that other thing is so obviously something from _insert another Gundam series here_, then that’s all you’re going to see.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:41 am
interesting, it appears that the commander of A-laws, the guy with a goatee that looks like gundam’s thingy on the chin(that brown hair old guy with a ponytail in the picture) is related to Sumeragi (same last name, same hair color), possibly father…
October 13th, 2008 at 3:02 am
Eh, whether Lockon is a cop-out depends on how Lyle is different from Neil personality wise / action wise.
October 13th, 2008 at 3:11 am
OOps, guess i was so tired when i watches this 1, it seems the man is Billy’s uncle not Sumeragi’s relative…(god i was so confused…)
October 13th, 2008 at 4:54 am
THAT WAS FUNNY!!
THEY SHOOT TO MARINA AND DIES xD
A-LOLSS!!
Dx
LOL!
October 13th, 2008 at 5:06 am
“A-LOLS” – just a perfect name. Now they need Patrick that we never forget this name “A-LOLS”. It sounds good.
Quite boring episode, except for the fight(Exia vs A-LOLS) and Kati&Soma.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:14 am
“I’m not Lyle Dylandy, I’m Lockon Stratos!” No, you’re fucking not. You’re Lockon’s gimpy little brother who wasn’t badass enough to make it into Celestial Being in the first place and we only grabbed because you have a passing resemblance to him and so can keep the fangirls in line.
00 Gundam was a bit shit tbh. I mean, at least when you went from Strike->Freedom you felt like something had been improved upon drastically (energy limit). The Freedom->Strike Freedom gave him those funky remote lasers as well which was 5 kinds of awesome. Exia->00 felt a bit wank tbh. Exia actually looks better, the twin drives on the shoulders just look a bit silly. Oh sure they’re useful and can make a shield, but they still look a bit shit.
Considering we’ve already seen H/Allelujah is coming back into the show in Kyrios Mk. 2 and we’ll have to assume Lyle is piloting Dynames Mk. 2, what’s Saji going to pilot? I suppose we’re one Ptolomaeios pilot down after cyborg-guy got blown up at the end of S1. Sigh, and I was so hoping that we’d have a Louise Vs. Saji fight.
DUDE WTF ARE YOU ON ABOUT MARINA DIDN’T GET SHOT WTF WTF OMG WTF.
>_> tee hee.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:22 am
Every week… How do you come up with this comedy GOLD!!?
October 13th, 2008 at 7:02 am
I don’t know if I should be happy that Lockon (who his brother changed his name to) is alive.
I’m happy because my favorite character returns from the dead (in a weird way)
but I’m also mad that Sunrise made such a stupid twist. “ONOZ Lockon died! It’s okay, we’ll just get his brother! Replacement!”
Geez, it’s like as if Lockon never died in the first place…
October 13th, 2008 at 7:20 am
Great…
It’s only been like the two episodes and the would-be villain of the season is already shown flustered, thus shattering my long-fostered image of a juvenile calculating bastard who is at least a million mind cycles ahead of everyone, hovering ominously at the very top in an iconic location such as the Sword of Akasha and orchestrating all the earthly events rapidly changing the fates of all the lesser beings (Celestial or not) for a reason he has yet to stumble upon as he goes.
Instead, WL seems to be on top:) Although I still fail to grasp her role in the series. I mean, sure, she made a fine fanservice object a while back, but now she just goes on and on about how the world will change or how it needs to be changed, blah blah – that’s all the non-graphical info that’s ever defined her. Not to mention she has not once dragged her ass over the fire for her cause, except for those few suggestive looks she gave Saji and some other beastly males.
Oh yeah! The CG of the GN burst DID move me because it kind of looks like the Lifestream.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:09 am
To be honest, I think Sunrise actually planned ahead and meant for Neil to die. I mean if he lived then there would have been no reason to introduce Lyle early in the first season. As for him “not being Lockon”, Lockon Stratos is a codename. Anyone can use it as CB sees fit.
I actually like Lyle. He may be fighting with a “terrorist” organization but at least he has a desire to change the world like his brother did. Shinichiro Miki is also doing a decent job making Lyle seem like a whole different character, aside from the fact that Lyle smokes.
And if Lyle didn’t exist then how would CB hook up with Kataron later on in the season? Seriously, even a blind man can see that plot point coming.
Oh, and speaking of Kataron and CB joining forces, I bet it will occur when Shirin decides to rescue her former leader and one of the two following things will take place:
One: Shirin succeeds but is followed and Marina and Kataron are hunted down by A-LOLS (that’s just too catchy) and CB intervenes.
Or Two: Shirin fails and begs CB for help and Lyle plays some part in getting CB to do it.
My money’s on two.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:45 am
i wonder if seravee can be come nadleeh too but newer and stronger and i wanna see em all use trans am especially the new dynames cause i havent see his trans am yet
October 13th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Jayers:
There’s no need for you to defend anime. I’m not looking down on you just because you take your G00 seriously.
In any case, Sunrise is like the boy who cries wolf. You want to believe in them one more time; I say to hell with it. They’ll just have to prove themselves truthful this time.
October 13th, 2008 at 10:43 am
it is a real bummer that g00 didn’t kick ass. I watch gundam for the massive guns to go kazaam and the suits slowly erode in the great destructiveness of the beams. I want to see arios in action cause he may be the weakest and the softest but i like the “variable” fighters more than the swords cause shooting suits (note the massive guns) is alot simpler and efficient than slicing them unrealistically with human shaped hands then again the swords are nice.
October 13th, 2008 at 10:50 am
If i were saji, I would try bouncing around a bit to keep from getting bored, i mean what are you going to do all dey in a insane asylum quarter. Then again the angst would just insensible dissapear. Although that is not a “logical lead up” from this story called the Defender, it just makes the story faster. Which could help.
October 13th, 2008 at 11:08 am
What I’m doing is no different from what you did last year with the fansub thing. I’m not looking down on you just because you take fansubbing seriously.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Yeah, except that I make fansub and you watch anime. Unless by that analogy you mean that you actually work for Sunrise.
See, Gundam is a cartoon. If other people don’t like it and express this dislike in the form of a sarcastic entry on their personal blogs, it should not detract from your own enjoyment. Which is why you should relax.
On the other hand, bad translations result in stupid comments being posted on my blog about how I’m so wrong about the story because I didn’t watch the canonical speedsub. This does have a somewhat more direct impact on me than “omg mean people are making fun of my favourite Naruto episode.”
It’s funny because I did the exact same thing for Code Geass, which I do not dislike, and I have always believed that I’m quite obvious in my over-the-top sarcasm that I do not actually hate any of these shows. My blog posts are mostly for entertainment, although some complaints are partly valid.
But it seems that more Gundam fans take things very seriously as compared to CG fans, to the point that it’s like they have an actual stake in the franchise beyond coughing up money for MG model kits. This is a generalized statement not targeted at you in particular.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
I know what you mean, but I wasn’t actually offended or anything. I like reading your blog and I don’t think I would have been interested in G00 if you hadn’t blog the first series.
I think you made pretty solid points for your cause so I do think that I misinterpreted your stuff. I don’t have any witty or profound reply to answer you with so I guess…write more and quicker next week?
October 13th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
From your previous posts, on season 1 DM, already knew that u enjoy the show although it looks like you’re bashing it. I mostly read these episode blogs for entertainment. Personally i find them funny, CG Gundam and all.
I get a laugh every time i read them, keep at it. XD
October 13th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
I thought the episode was pretty good. Although I sorta think its weird how they keep doing a ‘continue the show after credits’ sorta thing.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Hey guys, why are you taking DM so seriously? Of course DM knows his Lasse, he’s just being sarcastic XD. And of course, Sunrise doesn’t have the guts to kill Marina.
When Lockon was killed and there was no sign (or I just overlooked) that he’s going to be resurrected, I was really impressed. But now there’s another Lockon, it’s like they’re yelling “Fangirls rules!” in your face.
But I enjoyed this episode. It gave a little background and explained some things (which DM didn’t buy or already expected) and Saji finally found out the truth. So far, it’s not a spaceshipwreck… not yet.
Is this from a a subbed version or from the raw?
Well, there’s nothing we can do about English proficiency among the Japanese.
October 13th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
GSD is not a trainwreck.And so does Macross frontier.Where I’ve been watching it over and over again and I don’t see any trainwreck in it so far.I was wondering why ppl keep saying that both animes a trainwreck.Well at least, they have time to explain in each and every detail before it ended.Not like Code Geass S2.Its kinda confusing me a lil bit.
October 13th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
If some ppl meant to say that Sunrise had almost try to make more or many dead ppl back to life again then I kinda agree with you that its sort of a trainwreck.Just that only and also the plotholes.
October 13th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
ah thanks again DM! I just love it.
by the way: imho it’s the most evil and vicious unhuman torture to lock someone into a small room with Haro. it’s just TOO evil!
Saji will go crazy too.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
I think the twin drive system is different to just bolting on two GN drives on one mecha. They said SQUARED power output not double, so some magic/imba hax is going on there.
Something tells me that this new lockon is going to be a hateable character. Hes already like:
Setsuna: This is Lyle-
Lyle: No, this is lockon stratos
That somewhat implies that hes a bit quick and aggro.
I think the outrage and stuff… is overreacting to DM’s sarcasm ^_^;’ seriously had a good laugh, as usual. DM when are you going to battle with Danny Choo?
October 13th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
You get kinda irritated by the fact that instead of getting a new person become a GM Sunrise choose to bring back a dead character, only this time as a younger brother that looks identical to his older brother?
WTF Sunrise!! Lockon is dead, give a new gundam to someone completely new instead!!
But let me get this straight. There are only a twin drive on Gundam 00? But isn´t Setsuna´s Exia solar furnice also installed? Wouldn´t that make it a tripple drive? Or did I just missunderstand everything.
So Saji is going to be the one to reflect on wars and how bad it is troughout the whole show? Boring. Kinda fun to watch though. First he´s all “no Louise I want to spend time with you but that is all” and then he´s “NO, GIVE ME BACK MY LOUISE!! I NEED HER FOR SEX!”
I just want to shoot him. I just do. But that ain´t going to happen.
The twin drives exhaust is simple, round round it goes, where it´ll stop nobody knows. Rotation can twist light and such and with the GN particles it would make one hell of a shield. Which is displayed.
As for the “damn you Aolia” if you think you got all info on your enemies and they suddenly get something new that wasn´t explained to you by the intell you got you´d be pissed of. All of a sudden you´re not so 100% sure of yourself anymore, thus creating a not so good feeling for you.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
You did. Exia is one of the two solar furnaces installed on 00. The other is from 0 Gundam, the one we saw in Setsuna’s flashbacks which saved him. Together they make up the twin drive of 00 Gundam. They tried it with the Virtue/Nadleeh/Seravee GN drive alongside the 0 Gundam drive and couldn’t get it to work without Setsuna’s magic “I AM GUNDAM!” touch.
Likely some pseudo-science to do with syncing up the outputs (percentages they were on about?). To be honest, delving into Gundam science is a bit silly. They’ve got infinite power in the backpacks, quite literally. It’s a perpetual energy machine.
Is it okay if I hate him already for being a crappy knockoff of the real Lockon? /fanboy.
I think the point was how shocked Ribbons was at the idea, as if it were totally alien and utter madness when really it’s quite logical: more power=more powerful mecha. The fact that he was so upset was a bit silly really. Also, I get the feeling that Ribbons is gonna get replaced by evil female Tieria woman. It’d be an entirely pointless plot twist as both of them have about as much character development as a staplegun, but I’m getting a feeling nonetheless.
October 13th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Amnestic is my favourite reader. Huzzah.
October 13th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Regarding the squaring of the output, it could be just due to the manipulation of some basic maths just to give 00 an uber feel. I bet their explanation would go along the lines of 2×2 = 2^2.
The only number when multiplied by itself becomes an equivalent of its square.
October 13th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Well, this just means OO Gundam has 4 times the power of a normal Gundam (if you count Gundam normal), instead of 2 times. Naturally, I am stating the obvious here.
Besides, I think Ribbons is angry for not coming out with the Square of 2 thingy…someone with level 7 access should be able to access that…he wants answers given to me, ya know.
The only problem I have right now is the fact that the other 2 mechs are not here yet…and Celestial Being needs a new GN drive for Saji…he needs a Gundam.
Now, I don’t know why but I have a soft spot for both Code Geass R2 and Gundam OO…and hope that it will end well unlike GSD…(which sucked)
October 13th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
@ryuko_hikaru
“The only number when multiplied by itself becomes an equivalent of its square.”
1^1 = 1*1
October 13th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Allion – Neil’s twin was shown for like 2 seconds in Gundam 00 season 1. I was hoping there might have been some rivalry between the two in the second season, but instead I find that one is replacing the other which is kind of a :( to me.
Attack to Spain is what the text actually says in the raw. Sunrise makes the most amazing Engrish ever – for example, Meer Campbell’s famous note “I AM GOING TO KILLED” that’s written in very big letters XD.
YEAH SHE IS
October 13th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Huzzah indeed good sir!
I still reckon Saji’s replacing cyborg boy as Ptolomaeios pilot. They can’t really give Saji a Gundam without a) giving him a pseudo GN drive, you know, the kind he just found out about which crippled Louise and therefore will be vehemently against (read: whine about like a pussy) using or b) removing one of the drives off 00, which seems a bit silly after debuting their new mecha in all of his CG lightshow lens flare wannabe lifestream goodness.
A 4x Gundam+3 normal Gundams are probably better than 5 normal gundams, to be fair. Tactically it’d be a silly move.
To be continued!
October 13th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
The first time I saw Ribbons in the 2nd season, I really thought he/she has boobs because of that peekaboo dress, seriously. And look at how he/she sits with twisted legs?! Also, you have already noticed that Regene has a feminine voice and yet he/she is flat-chested. Indeed, Ribbons is maintaining a gay harem (whoever said that?).
It’s okay (or forgivable) for Gundam science to be silly, or even magical, as long as it’s consistent. Unfortunately, Gundam 00 science seems inconsistent.
Remember Throne Drei with Eva-like (or Moonlight Butterfly) wings? It can spread large amounts of GN particles and yet it has only one GN drive. Maybe because of the ventilators/fans, but seems like it’s not only spreading particles, it’s producing so much particles!
I’ve also noticed an inconsistency in the Trans Am / TD Blanket technology, which would make this comment too long if I discuss it.
Hmm… Is it rotating? Anyway, did anyone noticed that it looks and functions similarly with the Wings of Light in the Victory Gundam?
October 14th, 2008 at 12:35 am
Wasn’t that because it released stored/compressed particles all at once via the additional ventilators? The same reason why it could sync with Throne Eins to make the Mega Ultra GN Laser Cannon of Death for increased effectiveness, if I recall. I may be wrong here, but that’s the logic I took out of it.
October 14th, 2008 at 1:57 am
Doesn’t Gundam 00’s design seem a little flawed to anybody? I mean the GN Drives are mounted on those revolving shoulder panels on its arms, which leads me to speculate: if one of 00’s arms gets cut off at the joint, that means half of its power just went good-bye right? Not very efficient. Exia would still have full power while being limbless because its GN Drive is attached to its back, at least hypothetically speaking.
October 14th, 2008 at 2:06 am
Lol, I just realized: if it lost one of its arms/drives, then it wouldn’t even be able to operate. Dummy mistake on my part for forgetting to point that out and the mechanical designer for his…design.
October 14th, 2008 at 2:43 am
Not just half its power… They did say that the power is squared, meaning, 2^2=4, if it loses one arm, it will lose about 3/4th of its power…
October 14th, 2008 at 2:53 am
@?
lol I said it after my first post: 00 isn’t even able to operate without two GN Drives, so essentially, losing an arm = losing a GN Drive and gaining a new GG Drive
October 14th, 2008 at 5:03 am
Know how to conquer that vulnerability? Don’t get your arm chopped off. Well, not until the climactic final battle which ends with Gundam 00 clashing with which ends in what appears to be a loss for both sides, however while Graham is actually dead, Setsuna’s body magically floats to earth where he falls into the waiting arms of zombie Marina.
October 14th, 2008 at 5:19 am
Considering how Setsuna is a glutton for punishment (All the times Ali whupped his ass and Smirnov almost yanking his head off with a TIEREN), I don’t think the possibility of 00 being defeated before the end is too unlikely but probably won’t happen because Sunrise realized their logical mistakes. Setsuna (F)ail Seiei isn’t the greatest pilot in the world, lets face it. Without Trans-Am, he would’ve died fair and square. So no technology bonus for Setsuna means he sucks :p
October 14th, 2008 at 5:34 am
Yeah, but G00 is 4 times better than a normal Gundam, which are already pretty damn good. Seravee, Dynames Mk. 2 and Kyrios Mk. 2 are all going to get overhauls with up to date tech, something 4x as powerful as them is pretty damn intimidating. Sure he may not be much of a pilot without a tech boost, but it doesn’t matter because he does have the tech boost.
October 14th, 2008 at 5:47 am
Haha, are you saying Sunrise made Gundam 00 overpowered? I am sure they learned from the *few* mistakes that GSD made and won’t go back to the whole overpowered scenario, that doesn’t make for an interesting show does it? :p Keep in mind that the bad guys will definitely research something new and lame themselves to combat the Gundams. Sooner or later, Setsuna is going to get his ass kicked, AGAIN. Otherwise it will be like GSD, and God save whoever wants a repeat of that..
October 14th, 2008 at 10:44 am
I see a lot of comments here lol. I like your review of this anime and i laugh when you say A-Laws (A-LOlz) that was so funny. I will continue visit your blog.
For the people G00 is the best Gundam series out now not because of the quality, it s the story the for last is based using a our universe. There reasons why people hate GS & GSD by the overpowered of the gundams but don’t worried Sunrise will no make the &*%&&* mistake. This series shows balance between bad boys and heroes so stop making things out of the reality and just watch the episodes. I will enjoy watch this series and the first episode i have been watching about 25 times and still love it.
The time will tel us what next happen just wait :)
October 14th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Exactly, it would not be able to operate… for good. Remember that it only worked with O Gundam and Exia GN Drives installed, without both, it’s as good as a disposable Gundam. Or maybe it would still work with any GN Drive combination as long as they use the TransAm system, like what Setsuna did.
October 14th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Well, I would still like Saji to pilot a Gundam though…heck, if not for him, then for the fact that Exia’s frame should be used for something good instead of spare parts…
Now, time for a Tri-Drive by the bad guys…cube its power…wahahaha.
October 14th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
At the end of the first season the chief engineer (forgot his name) says (quote) :
- We’ve already tried moving its solar furnace (Gundam 0) for a test fit.
- But its solar furnace didn’t match either.
- I wonder if Exia’s solar furnace will work…
So they tried to make G00 work with O’s furnace only at first.
And the solar furnaces are so big, they take the whole upper body ! So it would seem IMHO that GN Drives and Furnaces are two different things. I think that the Furnace only produces particles using that topological defect theory, and the Drives are the system that interfaces with the furnace, and are not just some kind of exhaust. But it’s a shame that Sunrise didn’t come up with some better explanation about all that stuff.
Oh well, like someone pointed earlier, who watches Gundam for it’s science anyway ? :p
PS : i like Minovsky particles better :)
October 14th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
I think people need to also realize that they were still just testing 00, it even looks incomplete and kind of “naked” if you will… I’m sure the design will change later on if not just once at the most twice.
I wonder what nena’s unit looks like now…
And i’m waiting for graham’s super flag and Ali’s unit…
October 14th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Remember Throne Drei with Eva-like (or Moonlight Butterfly) wings? It can spread large amounts of GN particles and yet it has only one GN drive. Maybe because of the ventilators/fans, but seems like it’s not only spreading particles, it’s producing so much particles!
I’ve also noticed an inconsistency in the Trans Am / TD Blanket technology, which would make this comment too long if I discuss it.
The techonology has been consistent so far,at least from what I can remember.Drei has been mentioned to have a higher particle storage than other suits(Not sure whether this is because of a better capacity Tau Drive or because of the GN Condensers though.
And the running time and particle count of the Tau drives aren’t specified,so we can only assume that while Drei uses alot,it didn’t use all of it’s supply.If anything,if they go back to base after each mission then it should be fine.
Drei is also more of a support unit than a combat unit with the Stealth Field and the particles for Eins’s GN Launcher.The only weapon Drei have are the GN Hangun and some beam sabers.Considering this plus the higher particle supply,it’s not to unthinkable to think that it has alot to spare in for the GN Stealth Field.It’s not like the Drei went on for 10 straight missions without going to base and using Stealth Field each time.
As for the 00 Gundam,it squares the particles(5×5=25,100×100=10,000).The Twin Drive System is probably the thing that made the squaring of particles possible.
Judging by what I’ve seen,The GN Drives are only the power source of the Gundams while each of them has their own engines(Called…engines).The Twin Drive System is the engine of the 00 while using the two GN Drives as a power source.
And I love the science of the Gundam series,it’s actually one of my favourite aspects of it.Not the main reason I watch and not the most realistic things either but hey it’s an anime.
October 14th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
And I just realized that it looks silly to have GN Drives attached to the shoulders, every time the Gundam moves its arms, the drives move along. Well, that should make for one unpredictable-movement Gundam :p
October 14th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
It’s okay. The animation clearly shows that the GN particle beams aren’t even flying in the same directions as the GN drives.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
I hope so. Just like the Veda/Vader issue which ended when they finally showed VEDA in the show. There are inconsistencies, or at least unexplained stuff so far. Another example: The real GN Drives emit green particles, while the fake ones emit red, yet we saw Alejandro Corner’s mobile armor and suit emitting gold-colored particles?! Was it just because of the gold-colored coating? The theory about Throne Drei may be convincing. However I rewatched the scene where it created a stealth field and IMHO they exaggerated it though.
My presumption right now is that they are allowing these inconsistencies just to make the show look cool. After all, as what DM said, “G00 is mostly about fanservice and explosions anyway.” Unless they explain and make G00 a sci-fi show too.
October 15th, 2008 at 9:02 am
@manga’s comment
I agree, they should have made Feldt pilot the Dynames, then there would be some character background connection.
October 15th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
@SonicSP
Well it just makes you still wonder though about how the GN particles work. I’m assuming that the energy from the particles aren’t converted to some other type of energy so it doesn’t make sense that Seravee could do so well using the same furnace and stop that Gn-XIII’s beam saber while Exia’s sword got cut in half so easily when it was designed to break through gn particles/energy. If the fed’s technology improved that much within four years you would think they would have already figured out how to produce furnaces of the same caliber that the gundams use and counteract energy fields that are as strong as Seravee’s.
Wait I take that back. Gundam logic never worked with real logic.
October 15th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
‘Everyone’s a fan of May’n all of a sudden. It’s not cool and indie any more.’
I could probably count the number of May’n fans with one hand 6 months back.
Now, even tentacles wouldn’t suffice.
Face it, the first famous Japanese guest that most anime watchers know is coming; obviously everyone wants to jump the bandwagon.
October 15th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Because Newton’s Laws are non-existant in this universe.
October 16th, 2008 at 2:13 am
Question, at the beginning of the episode when they were showing the 3 month flashback, who were the two people behind feldt and milena on either side of ian and lasse? (if you look at the pic captioned ‘come on beach episode’ you can see one of them to feldt’s right)
@ eternal
they aren’t attached to the shoulders, they’re connected to its back via an L-shaped piece on each side of the packpack.
@ null
do bear in mind that the GN sword was damaged and was over 4 years old, and it was designed to go through GN fields speficially, my guess is, there are different compression ratios for the particles depending on their application.
and it didn’t cut through it easily, it required two beam sabres in constant contact with the blade to cut through the sword.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:53 am
It is funny that i born the same day/months Lockol Stratos lol
March 3
October 16th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
“And is it just me or does Neil’s twin brother feel like a huge cop-out. It’s like Sunrise really wanted to kill a main character for good just to prove that they have the balls to do it, but wimped out at the last minute and threw in this identical twin to appease the angry mob of yaoi fangirls.”
You ever watched the ‘A Better Tomorrow’ film trilogy? Same thing. A major character dies in the first film, so in the second film they *conveniently* discover he has an identical twin brother living in America. Naturally, they bring him back to do badass shit of the variety that his “dead brother” used to do. Seriously, when I saw Lyle appear as Neil’s brother in ep 1, I immediately thought “Holy shit, Sunrise have pulled a friggin A Better Tomorrow”. Must be fans of Hong Kong cinema. Now all they need are stylish gunfights and gangsters in trenchcoats.
Also note that the third A Better Tomorrow film is set chronologically before the first one…so once again, they can resurrect that dead major character with no problems. Who’s willing to bet that the third season of Gundam 00 is one huge flashback, starring a yet-to-be-killed Lockon Stratos?
Actually, I feel like re-watching the first two A Better Tomorrow films now…”FOR YOU, RICE IS NOTHING, BUT TO US, RICE JUST LIKE MY FATHER AND MOTHER. DON’T FUCK WITH MY FAMILY!”
October 16th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Personally i’m not that big of a fan of May’n. I liked her a lot when MF (macross frontier) first came out because her songs were great!. I went out and ordered the first OST and then fell in love even more. But i prefer megumi a lot more over May’n. I mean seriously, Megumi’s voice is just so much better in my opinion. I’m not in anyway critisizing May’n but hey just a preference.
And your most definately right; Newton’s Law’s are non existant in this universe. That is all i have to say about this anime. And Gundam 00 is an attention whore…Amen to that….
=D so far though this is your typical gundam show starting out other than wing and seed. (PLUS: if GSE is a real live thing i will be HIGHLY upset if lacus dies off D:)
October 17th, 2008 at 12:07 am
D: i forgot to add. Megumi > May’n AND! I wish i could cook two pizza’s at once ._.;; I feel so left out. While pondering this i will also think about who will die off next. Since sunrise has a habbit of killing off important female characters. -cough-
October 17th, 2008 at 3:00 am
Wow. This is the first time i post here. Please, be gentle, it’s my first time. lol. This episode rocked, except Saji. Why is he still behaving like a cry baby? He had 4 years to fix himself up!
October 17th, 2008 at 10:58 am
saji shouldn’t exist at all it is a waste of time.
October 17th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Billy got laid!
October 18th, 2008 at 4:15 am
YES BILLY GOT LAID BY A GIRL NOT A GUY?!
October 18th, 2008 at 4:19 am
Yes he got laid! But, you know, with enough beer a guy can look like a girl too! Let’s just make sure it’s a…. okay, it’s a girl. Yes, he got laid. :))
October 18th, 2008 at 6:47 am
Pardon my lewdness, but I think the phrase “A butt is a butt, no matter what it’s attached to” seems apt at this point :P
October 18th, 2008 at 6:48 am
Not a fan of the new Lockon. Not because of him, but because Lockon is freaking dead alright?!
Not a fan of the new Exia having the magical ability to make an anti laser shield.
Do like the new grown up Setsuna.
Where did the A-holes get GN drives from?
And the word you keep looking for and failing to find is gay.
October 18th, 2008 at 7:03 am
They’re mass produced pseudo-GN Drives that we saw equipped on the ‘Knightmare’ mobile suits at the closing of G00 season 1. Basically they (the Governments) just reverse-engineered the original Pseudo-GN drives provided to them for the anti-Gundam suits and then mass produced the drives.
October 18th, 2008 at 7:26 am
do u think kyrios’ GN drive has been dragged along to the prison with alluejah? (im presuming that he got captured by someone)
dont see anymore sandslayer comments anymore eh
October 18th, 2008 at 7:38 am
If the government had access to Kyrios’ GN drive, I’m confused as to why they haven’t used it, though that raises the plothole of why Allelujah would be in prison and Celestial Being had Kyrios’ drive. He was last seen ‘dying’ in Kyrios, wasn’t he? Seems odd they’d get separated.
And sandslayer, iirc, expressed dislike for the Gundam series so he’s probably not too fussed about visiting DM’s site anymore. Couldn’t tell you anymore though cos I don’t know :P
October 18th, 2008 at 7:46 am
isnt it obvious that allelujah was captured after all the gundam got destroyed. its not like some government agents are cherry picking in the middle of space and freaking found him in the middle. he obviously went crazy after that. he probably worked somewhere. i mean guys it’s five years after, that doesnt mean he was capture right after the battle. there was probably something really traumatizing in the middle of the story that drove him to crazyland. and wouldn’t they have reversed engineered it by now if they actually have it. like they learned how to get the pseudo-GN drives to work in less than 5 episodes. i think giving them 5 years to figure something out is a stretch.
October 18th, 2008 at 8:05 am
Hallelujah is gone, Allelujah is the new sane man in a world of crazies and he and Soma are going to hook up. Just watch.
October 18th, 2008 at 8:18 am
If it was obvious I would have noticed it, QED.
Actually that’s perfectly possible. Gundams have some never beforeseen technology, their Infinite solar furnaces for one. If you were a member of the Government’s military, wouldn’t you want to get your hands on that tech? I know I would. It’d be the tactically sound next move. You’ve already crippled CB’s combat effectiveness to pretty much zero, scouring the battlefield and nearby areas for remnants of a Gundam would be an excellent plan.
No. If it was so easy to do so, why doesn’t CB simply make more infinite solar furnaces? Then they could have more Gundams, or at least more Twin-Drive Gundams. Have they done such a thing? No. They probably know the tech better than anyone as well, I don’t doubt that there’s a pseudo-science explanation for why the Solar furnaces can’t be recreated.
October 18th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
didn’t the alvatore have 7 GN drives?
and doesn’t the ahead already have 2?
October 18th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
The reason the government don’t have the solar surfaces of kyrios is because CB have it. Remember in the second episode, in the beginning, they said they try with three twos GN driver to have the 00 compatiblity.
October 18th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Is that based on experience?
They don’t have to. If I remembered it right, a traitor of CB in S1 provided them with 30 Pseudo-GN drives and information about the technology.
Also, at the end of S1, it was shown that they can eject their GN Drives, just like what Tieria did.
October 19th, 2008 at 12:38 am
Wait! Last Time i remember, Allelujah was floating in space. The UN forces had been decimated, then how in the world was he captured? Secondly, the whole Twin Drive issue, does it mean that it can use the Trans-AM more often and recharge at twice the rate? Finally, Twin Drives means twice the speed, and reaction rate in Trans-Am and in normal mode. So, it should be a greater advantage, like the Alvatore, which had 7 drives. Maybe, in the nearby future, the 00 Gundam will be able to carry a large energy bazooka, like the previous Virtue, and be able to generate a GN field, like 0 Gundam and the one the Alvarron used in the final episode.
October 19th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Hey!!! Why does everyone hate Marina? She’s having a Cagalli moment in Gundam 00. lol. Once she puts her mind into it, she’ll be a great leader, and maybe Hiro, i mean Setsuna, will fall for her. Right? Right? If not, well, am i on the list? :)
October 20th, 2008 at 12:19 am
@Methanatoias477x
Marina is just boring.
October 20th, 2008 at 2:40 am
She’s not boring. She’s just… complicated. Women have those complicated moments, when you don’t know what the hell they are thinking, but you know something is up. lol
October 20th, 2008 at 3:01 am
Marina is just boring.
I agree With lilu
October 20th, 2008 at 8:01 am
Im just not into the helpless princess type. Other than that i guess she is ok.
October 21st, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Marina doesn’t bother me as much as Saji… like seriously you know you need to get past puberty when. On a serious note, yeah guess what Aeolia, we can count as well, and personally I think it would have been better if all the new Gundam’s had 2 linked drives and 00 Gundam had like a triple drive or something, personally I think that’d be better.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:08 pm
idem with Marina, she is boring..
and Cagalli is not like her..XD..in any sense
Cagalli fight from the begginin’ of the series D:!
Marina is just thinkin and be a good emo girl.
October 25th, 2008 at 12:20 am
Omg its Spandam again!
Does that Chinese person really die? or are they going to pull a Nunnally or that coffee obsessed gundam pilot or a Lelouch or a Suzaku?
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October 28th, 2008 at 6:10 am
Lol, I just realized: if it lost one of its arms/drives, then it wouldn’t even be able to operate. Dummy mistake on my part for forgetting to point that out and the mechanical designer for his…design.