Comments on: Windows Phone 7 /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/2010/12/01/windows-phone-7/ Anime, Games, J-Pop and Whatever Else Sun, 05 Jun 2011 14:44:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Caedite /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/2010/12/01/windows-phone-7/comment-page-1/#comment-408942 Caedite Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:02:41 +0000 /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/?p=1465#comment-408942 I got the Blackberry Torch, it has been pretty good so far. I got the Blackberry Torch, it has been pretty good so far.

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By: BW022 /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/2010/12/01/windows-phone-7/comment-page-1/#comment-400919 BW022 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 18:55:11 +0000 /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/?p=1465#comment-400919 After several years of using an old HTC Windows CE phone, I saw the LG Optimus Quantum and thought it was time to upgrade. Phone looks great. Ugg... I couldn't have imagined the nightmare. The first thing was getting my contacts, appointments, etc. over. No problem, just use ActiveSync. When my old phone died and I got a replacement it took me 5 minutes to re-enter my email settings and then just re-sync with Outlook. Humm... Windows Phone 7 doesn't support ActiveSync except with Exchange. Humm... The only option was to export and import (contacts only) to a Windows Live Hotmail account. Only Windows Live won't sent me confirmation emails. I *hate* any system which required a third-party web-site in order to get a consumer electronics device to work. Even if MS support fixes this, it will only import my contacts. The thought of manually copying/updating my Xmas to-do list and calendar appointments is something I just can't f-ing imagine. Might as well take my old phone with me to the store. The second problem was I wanted to get hold of the manual from LG. The little user guide sucks, so I figured they would have a move complete manual on their web-site. I went there only to find you need to download some program to get the updates and manual. Humm... And of course the program wouldn't work. It won't accept serial numbers, IMEI numbers, or get them from the phone. It keeps barking about drivers. When I tried using it to update the driver... it wouldn't list the Quantum Optimus model - even though I downloaded it under the Quantum Optimus. The idea that I need to use a program to connect to my phone in order to download a manual to provide support for my phone is equally stupid. Issue number 3, I can't view YouTube videos without some program installed. And it won't install programs without a Windows Live account. Issue number 4, Zune. Why do I need another music player organizer on my computer. Why can't I just copy the files to the phone or use Media Player to sync the files? Media Player can sync with my $59 MP3 player? The idea of having another Microsoft application to manage my music (on my Media Center PC none-the-less) is just mind-blowing. After several years of using an old HTC Windows CE phone, I saw the LG Optimus Quantum and thought it was time to upgrade. Phone looks great. Ugg… I couldn’t have imagined the nightmare.

The first thing was getting my contacts, appointments, etc. over. No problem, just use ActiveSync. When my old phone died and I got a replacement it took me 5 minutes to re-enter my email settings and then just re-sync with Outlook. Humm… Windows Phone 7 doesn’t support ActiveSync except with Exchange. Humm…

The only option was to export and import (contacts only) to a Windows Live Hotmail account. Only Windows Live won’t sent me confirmation emails. I *hate* any system which required a third-party web-site in order to get a consumer electronics device to work. Even if MS support fixes this, it will only import my contacts. The thought of manually copying/updating my Xmas to-do list and calendar appointments is something I just can’t f-ing imagine. Might as well take my old phone with me to the store.

The second problem was I wanted to get hold of the manual from LG. The little user guide sucks, so I figured they would have a move complete manual on their web-site. I went there only to find you need to download some program to get the updates and manual. Humm… And of course the program wouldn’t work. It won’t accept serial numbers, IMEI numbers, or get them from the phone. It keeps barking about drivers. When I tried using it to update the driver… it wouldn’t list the Quantum Optimus model – even though I downloaded it under the Quantum Optimus. The idea that I need to use a program to connect to my phone in order to download a manual to provide support for my phone is equally stupid.

Issue number 3, I can’t view YouTube videos without some program installed. And it won’t install programs without a Windows Live account.

Issue number 4, Zune. Why do I need another music player organizer on my computer. Why can’t I just copy the files to the phone or use Media Player to sync the files? Media Player can sync with my $59 MP3 player? The idea of having another Microsoft application to manage my music (on my Media Center PC none-the-less) is just mind-blowing.

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By: Jaemin /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/2010/12/01/windows-phone-7/comment-page-1/#comment-399261 Jaemin Fri, 10 Dec 2010 04:40:13 +0000 /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/?p=1465#comment-399261 I'm Korean...T_T I’m Korean…T_T

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By: omo /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/2010/12/01/windows-phone-7/comment-page-1/#comment-396989 omo Tue, 07 Dec 2010 03:46:05 +0000 /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/?p=1465#comment-396989 I think it's way too early to make a call on WP7 for any sort of definitive measure. But when you compare it to Android, it really falls short... Well, 1 year after Android's first phone they've already got most of the basics covered, so the 1 year mark for WP7 would be a good place to compare. I'm doing this comment thing in necro manner to drop a link for you, if you haven't already found it: http://lifehacker.com/5504465/how-to-transform-your-windows-desktop-with-an-amazing-windows-phone-7+style-hud I think it’s way too early to make a call on WP7 for any sort of definitive measure. But when you compare it to Android, it really falls short… Well, 1 year after Android’s first phone they’ve already got most of the basics covered, so the 1 year mark for WP7 would be a good place to compare.

I’m doing this comment thing in necro manner to drop a link for you, if you haven’t already found it:
http://lifehacker.com/5504465/how-to-transform-your-windows-desktop-with-an-amazing-windows-phone-7+style-hud

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By: DarkMirage /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/2010/12/01/windows-phone-7/comment-page-1/#comment-393430 DarkMirage Thu, 02 Dec 2010 01:46:08 +0000 /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/?p=1465#comment-393430 If I remember correctly, the iPhone did not get IME support until the 3G version was released in Japan. Given that Microsoft probably started making all this like 6 months after the iPhone came out and rushed it out of the door, I can see why they did not bother with IME. I agree that there are a lot of long-term problems that Microsoft needs to solve with software updates, such as a lack of SMS drafts. Hopefully WP7 doesn't die before that happens. If I remember correctly, the iPhone did not get IME support until the 3G version was released in Japan. Given that Microsoft probably started making all this like 6 months after the iPhone came out and rushed it out of the door, I can see why they did not bother with IME.

I agree that there are a lot of long-term problems that Microsoft needs to solve with software updates, such as a lack of SMS drafts. Hopefully WP7 doesn’t die before that happens.

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By: NegativeZero /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/2010/12/01/windows-phone-7/comment-page-1/#comment-393355 NegativeZero Wed, 01 Dec 2010 22:31:12 +0000 /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/?p=1465#comment-393355 I've got one of the HTC offerings in addition to an iPhone, and honestly I don't think WP7 is ready yet, at least not for me. Mainly the issues I have are lack of app support. It also really annoys me that the phone doesn't have an IME or anything. One of the best things about the iPhone is being able to enable a Japanese keyboard. When you're learning the language, being able to actually type it in is fairly important. My options for input languages in WP7 seem to be UK English or UK English. :\ Also as you noted, Bing maps utterly sucks. I also see the whole interface getting fairly clunky in the future unless they add the ability to group apps together under a single hub on the home screen. Having to scroll through that list of everything is fine when you've got ~30 options, but the more you use the phone the more clunky that's going to feel. I also had a fairly sour initial setup experience too. I crashed the phone three times, and ended up having to factory reset it twice. The first hotmail account you sync to it becomes your primary account, and it *cannot be removed* from the phone. It forces syncing of contacts, calendar etc from there, and you can't turn that off. My hotmail account was something I first set up over a decade ago, and I haven't used it since I moved to gmail not long after gmail was first set up by google. My Xbox Live account is linked to that Hotmail account, and that's the only thing I use it for. It's full of contacts from people that I used to talk to a decade ago. But I attached it to the phone so I could grab the Xbox Live stuff. Trouble is that my contacts list was then polluted with all that junk and no way to remove it. Reset the phone, made a new hotmail account so no shitty contacts, but that meant that I ended up unable to use the Xbox integration, so I had to go into my old hotmail account and go through 200+ contacts to cut all the ones I didn't need, which was most of them, then factory reset the phone *again* to go back to the original account. Stupidly broken. In the end I've pretty much shelved my WP7. It doesn't offer me anything that I don't already have. If I wasn't an existing smartphone owner I'd probably stick with it. I’ve got one of the HTC offerings in addition to an iPhone, and honestly I don’t think WP7 is ready yet, at least not for me. Mainly the issues I have are lack of app support. It also really annoys me that the phone doesn’t have an IME or anything. One of the best things about the iPhone is being able to enable a Japanese keyboard. When you’re learning the language, being able to actually type it in is fairly important. My options for input languages in WP7 seem to be UK English or UK English. :\ Also as you noted, Bing maps utterly sucks. I also see the whole interface getting fairly clunky in the future unless they add the ability to group apps together under a single hub on the home screen. Having to scroll through that list of everything is fine when you’ve got ~30 options, but the more you use the phone the more clunky that’s going to feel.

I also had a fairly sour initial setup experience too. I crashed the phone three times, and ended up having to factory reset it twice. The first hotmail account you sync to it becomes your primary account, and it *cannot be removed* from the phone. It forces syncing of contacts, calendar etc from there, and you can’t turn that off. My hotmail account was something I first set up over a decade ago, and I haven’t used it since I moved to gmail not long after gmail was first set up by google. My Xbox Live account is linked to that Hotmail account, and that’s the only thing I use it for. It’s full of contacts from people that I used to talk to a decade ago. But I attached it to the phone so I could grab the Xbox Live stuff. Trouble is that my contacts list was then polluted with all that junk and no way to remove it. Reset the phone, made a new hotmail account so no shitty contacts, but that meant that I ended up unable to use the Xbox integration, so I had to go into my old hotmail account and go through 200+ contacts to cut all the ones I didn’t need, which was most of them, then factory reset the phone *again* to go back to the original account. Stupidly broken.

In the end I’ve pretty much shelved my WP7. It doesn’t offer me anything that I don’t already have. If I wasn’t an existing smartphone owner I’d probably stick with it.

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By: chikorita157 /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/2010/12/01/windows-phone-7/comment-page-1/#comment-393191 chikorita157 Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:01:55 +0000 /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/?p=1465#comment-393191 Even though WP7 UI is innovative, I still think it's a flop because of the lack of multitasking and copy and paste. My Samsung Blackjack from 2008 could do multitasking, custom ringtones, copy/paste and slide load applications... and it ran Windows Mobile 6.0... There is no excuse why Microsoft didn't add these features if the had them in Windows Mobile... The problem is, Windows Phone 7 lacks many of the features of Blackberry, iPhone and Android. On top of that, they are still using the crappy Internet Explorer 8 rendering engine instead of the more standards compliant engine in IE 9... Therefore, I think WP7 is just as crappy as Windows Mobile 6 I used in the past not because it's clunky, it's not competitive. This is probably a reason why I ditched my Windows Mobile 6 Samsung Smartphone for a iPhone 3GS, because Microsoft is horrible at mobile OSes... Windows Phone 7 will never beat Blackberry, Android and iPhone... They are too late to gain the lost customers from Windows Mobile. Even though WP7 UI is innovative, I still think it’s a flop because of the lack of multitasking and copy and paste. My Samsung Blackjack from 2008 could do multitasking, custom ringtones, copy/paste and slide load applications… and it ran Windows Mobile 6.0… There is no excuse why Microsoft didn’t add these features if the had them in Windows Mobile…

The problem is, Windows Phone 7 lacks many of the features of Blackberry, iPhone and Android. On top of that, they are still using the crappy Internet Explorer 8 rendering engine instead of the more standards compliant engine in IE 9… Therefore, I think WP7 is just as crappy as Windows Mobile 6 I used in the past not because it’s clunky, it’s not competitive. This is probably a reason why I ditched my Windows Mobile 6 Samsung Smartphone for a iPhone 3GS, because Microsoft is horrible at mobile OSes… Windows Phone 7 will never beat Blackberry, Android and iPhone… They are too late to gain the lost customers from Windows Mobile.

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By: DarkMirage /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/2010/12/01/windows-phone-7/comment-page-1/#comment-393183 DarkMirage Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:36:18 +0000 /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/?p=1465#comment-393183 <strong>omo</strong>: No, I don't have an Xbox. I just think that Xbox Live integration can be huge if they get some proper first-party games going. The hardware specs are good enough for graphic intensive gaming. An official Google search app already exists (you can see it in one of my screenshots), along with a few unofficial ones. The main problem is that you cannot remap the hardware search button. omo:

No, I don’t have an Xbox. I just think that Xbox Live integration can be huge if they get some proper first-party games going. The hardware specs are good enough for graphic intensive gaming.

An official Google search app already exists (you can see it in one of my screenshots), along with a few unofficial ones. The main problem is that you cannot remap the hardware search button.

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By: Philip Seyfi /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/2010/12/01/windows-phone-7/comment-page-1/#comment-393182 Philip Seyfi Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:35:35 +0000 /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/?p=1465#comment-393182 If you're learning Japanese, please check out the NihongoUp app ;) And if you like it pls rate & review it ^^ If you’re learning Japanese, please check out the NihongoUp app ;) And if you like it pls rate & review it ^^

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By: Jon /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/2010/12/01/windows-phone-7/comment-page-1/#comment-393173 Jon Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:00:45 +0000 /websites/www.darkmirage.com-pre/?p=1465#comment-393173 When I saw Windows Phone 7 on your feed, I knew I had to read this... When I saw Windows Phone 7 on your feed, I knew I had to read this…

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